Since then, everyone from director Todd Haynes to Joaquin himself has had a go at discussing Joker: Folie À Deux’s musical elements – and whether it’s actually a musical or just a “film with music”.
Ahead of the movie’s Venice Film Festival premiere, Gaga was asked again about the project’s relationship with music.
“The way that we approached music in this film was very special and extremely nuanced,” she explained.
“I wouldn’t necessarily say that this is actually a musical, in a lot of ways it’s very different. The music is used to really give the characters a way to express what they need to say, because the scene and just the dialogue is not enough.”
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That’s literally what a musical is. Gaga should know better
It feels like they did a bunch of focus groups and the toxic male audience is scared of musicals so they no longer want to focus on the music https://t.co/1BjVpQbRpm
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That’s literally what a musical is. Gaga should know better
It feels like they did a bunch of focus groups and the toxic male audience is scared of musicals so they no longer want to focus on the music https://t.co/1BjVpQbRpm
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What is this bullshit statement that these people have agreed on? Lady Gaga of all people surely should be aware that that IS what a musical is??? The Lady Gaga who belted Elphie songs during school lunches!!!??? 🙁 https://t.co/DD8O03NO3J
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What is this bullshit statement that these people have agreed on? Lady Gaga of all people surely should be aware that that IS what a musical is??? The Lady Gaga who belted Elphie songs during school lunches!!!??? 🙁 https://t.co/DD8O03NO3J
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Don’t worry, Marge, it’s not a musical. It’s just that the music is used to give the characters a way to express what they need to say when the scene and dialogue are not enough. pic.twitter.com/uDP4FgS36i
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Don’t worry, Marge, it’s not a musical. It’s just that the music is used to give the characters a way to express what they need to say when the scene and dialogue are not enough. pic.twitter.com/uDP4FgS36i
Joaquin won an Oscar for his performance in the first Joker film, and returns for the sequel alongside new addition Lady Gaga as the iconic Batman villain Harley Quinn.
The film’s cast also includes Zazie Beetz (returning from the first Joker film), Steve Coogan, Brendan Gleeson and Catherine Keener.
Joker: Folie À Deux hits cinemas on Friday 4 October.